[–][BOS] Paul PierceChancelor_West 7 points 5 hours ago This list just keeps getting worse and worse. In what world has LeBron had a better career than Duncan or Shaq? 这个榜单越来越烂了,在什么维度里勒布朗的生涯能超过邓肯或者沙克了? [–]Celticsbustedracquet 66 points 5 hours ago* In a world where rings aren't the only basis. By any statistical measure, LeBron has had a longer prime than Duncan or Shaq, and put up 4 of the greatest 11 seasons in NBA history by Win Shares / 48 minutes. EDIT: LeBron also has 4 of the top 11 seasons in PER, only other player to do that is MJ. Also has 4 of the top 10 seasons in Value over Replacement Player (again so did MJ), and FIVE of the top 10 seasons in Box Plus-Minus (slightly better than MJ). Basically, in any of the all-in-one stats that measure overall impact of the game, LeBron is the closest player in NBA history to matching MJ's impact. I fucking hate LeBron as a Celtics fan, but the dude is one of the 5 greatest players to ever play the game, and a lot of his seasons where he didn't win rings like 2009, aren't talked about enough as some of the greatest years ever. 在冠军不是作为唯一评判标准的维度里是可以这么说的。用任何数据方法来比较,勒布朗的巅峰都比邓肯或者沙克要长,从每48分钟的winshares来看,勒布朗打出过NBA历史上最好的11次个人赛季里的4个。 勒布朗还在史上最高的11个赛季PER值里占4个,唯一做到这点的其余球员就只有乔丹。在VORP(球员不可替代指数)最高的10个赛季里占4个(乔丹这点也干了),在正负值最高的10个赛季里占到5个(略高于乔丹)。基本上,从任何一体化的数据来评比球员对比赛的影响,勒布朗都是NBA史上最接近乔丹影响力的球员。 作为凯蜜,我真尼玛的是勒布朗黑,但这家伙就是这项运动史上最好的5名球员之一,而且很多他没有夺冠的赛季里,比方说09年,他打出的史上最伟大的个人赛季之一的表现被低估了