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1) xinmsn: What was your favourite scene in Against The Tide?
最喜欢《逆潮》的哪场戏？
Kaiyi: Personally for me, my favourite scene is episode 19 because of Xueqing’s (Rui En) transformation (from good to evil). It was really Rui En’s one-man show in that episode. That scene where she broke up with Christopher Lee was also memorable because it had a lot of feels to it and that was a silent scene with no background music. The audio post wanted to try this new style and suggested for us to reduce the music for a more immersive experience with no distractions, especially if the acting is strong, so that it feels more like a movie.
个人最喜欢雪清变坏的那集第19集。这集就是瑞恩的个人秀。雪清和狄深分手那场戏也让人印象深刻，因为这场戏感情错综复杂，并且这个场景没有配乐。音效组想要进行新的尝试，建议我们在这样的场合尽量减少音乐以免干扰要表达的情绪，尤其是表演很到位的场景。这样会更有电影的感觉。
2) And your favourite character in the show is?
最喜欢剧中哪个人物？
Di Shen (Christopher Lee). When I was writing this script, I put some of my own thoughts into this character as a reflection of myself. He’s one of my most favourite characters of late.
狄深。我在写剧本的时候，在这人人物身上加入了我自己的想法。他是我最喜欢的人物之一。
As for Xueqing, well, she is a character I’ve written before and someone that goes from good to bad when things happen. She (Rui En) did a good job with it, although she thought there were insufficient scenes of her transition to a bad person. But I personally think that [her change should come later because] the story can’t be dragged on for too long when Xueqing changes. It becomes hard keep the story plot under wraps when she goes bad.
雪清这样的人物我以前写过，由好变坏。她演得很好，虽然瑞恩觉得转变的场景有点少。（接着这句有点关键，我看不太懂，请新加坡的亲 @云云2887 帮忙翻译一下）
3) Did you guys have to cut down on a lot of scenes then?
你们有没减掉一些场景？
Yes, definitely. We overran for every episode. It’s really hard to gauge [how long each episode will take] when you read the script. For some episodes, we added scenes because the director felt that it was insufficient. But what happens is you end up having a surplus of scenes and chopping the scenes out. So the overall episode might become choppy.
当然。每集都超时了。当你看剧本的时候很难预估到每集的时间。有几集我们加了几场戏，因为导演觉得还不够。但是最后发现戏超了又要减掉。所以整体减掉不少。
4) Were there a lot of improvisations to the script when you guys had to add scenes?
有没有很多演员表演和剧本有出入的地方？
No big changes were made. Some actors would give me suggestions for certain scenes, like Rui En. She will let me know if she thinks this scene can be improved and if her feedback is good I’d usually accept it. The last scene [in the house where Xueqing and Di Shen had their final showdown] where she said this line: ‘Darkness cannot drive out darkness, hate cannot drive out hate, only love can,” was her idea. She hoped that this scene would not be filled with cheesy or cliché lines and thought it’d be better to end it with that, and I thought, ‘Hey this is a good idea.’ The outcome was good.
In comparison to that last scene, I thought the opening of episode 19 was really good too because it was really close to what I had previously imagined when I wrote the script. When we write, we tend to have certain scenes play in our minds, and this scene was really close to what I had imagined originally. So this is the most satisfying scene for me. As a writer, you get satisfaction when a scene in a show turns out to be exactly like how you have imagined it to be in your mind.
没有太大的变化。有些演员会在某些场景给我建议，比如瑞恩，她觉得对戏好的意见会跟我提，如果我觉得那个意见不错，我会采纳。瑞恩在最后一集在狄深的屋子里面说的那句英文台词，就是她自己想到要加进去的。她觉得那样更好。我想了想，“对哦，那是个好主意”，出来的效果很好。
和最好一场戏比，19集开头那里也非常好，我在写剧本的时候，也会构思当时的场景，而这场戏和我想象的效果非常接近。所以这场戏是我最满意的。作为故事人，最满足的就是实际演出的效果和你想象中的效果达到高度一致。
5) This cast is fielded with a fair bit of new actors too. Out of these new faces, which actor left the biggest impression on you?
这部剧很多新演员。谁让你印象深刻。
The newest is Carrie Wong (Di Yao). And to be honest, we were taking a bet by casting her in this drama. There were two rounds of audition, I didn’t get to see the first round, but for the second round when we gave her the script, we were surprised by her emotional outburst and decided to give her a shot. We were really pleased with the outcome and her sibling relationship with Chris was one that I really enjoyed too. That was a surprise for me.
黄思恬。事实上，我们卡司她也是赌了一把。有两轮试镜，第一轮我没看到。但是第二轮的时候给她剧本，我们非常惊讶于她情绪的表现能力，所以觉得要她加入。我们非常满意看到演出来的效果，她和李铭顺之间的兄妹互动我也很喜欢。是一个大惊喜。
6) I enjoyed the uncle-niece relationship between Zheng Ge Ping and Rui En too. Their scenes together made for the show’s most light-hearted moments. Was it intentional?
我喜欢瑞恩和郑各评的叔侄互动。这些轻松的场景是不是特意加进去的？
That was one arrangement I had to make this show more light-hearted. Unriddle 2 was grey and dark, but for this show, I tried to balance it out with their familial relationship by neutralising the darkness of the show with their uncle-niece scenes. I didn’t think this drama was that dark and gloomy after watching it (laughs).
是特别加进去这些轻松的戏份的。最火2很灰很黑，这次希望加入叔侄轻松搞笑的互动来平衡氛围，让这剧不那么黑暗。我没想到这戏这么黑暗。
9) Can you share with us one such example of a scene that got the cut?
能分享下减掉了哪些戏吗？
In episode 12 from the drama’s first edit, after they had confirmed their status as a couple, there were a few scenes we had to take out that could have contributed to the build-up of their relationship. One such example is this particular scene which shows their relationship developing and showcases a bit of Xueqing’s resistance towards the colour grey. Something cute she did was to keep all of Di Shen’s grey clothes in his wardrobe – not in an angry manner, but in a you-must-accept-my-likes-and-dislikes-now-that-we’re-dating way. And so when Di Shen enters his room and notices a pile of grey clothes at a corner, he immediately knows it’s something done by Xueqing. So this is something small and cute only couples would do, but it got cut out due to overrun.
12集按照开始剪辑的那版，他们确定情侣关系后，还有一些两人在一起的互动场景的，有助于巩固两人的恋爱关系，但是被减掉了。其中一场戏就是演他们感情发展的戏，还有雪清抗拒灰色的戏。她做的可爱的事情就是把狄深所有灰色的衣服放进衣帽间，不是以生气的样子，而是以一种“既然我们在一起，你就要接受我喜欢的和不喜欢的”的样子演绎出来的。然后当狄深走进去他的房间然后发现角落里堆了一堆灰色衣服，他马上意识到这一定是雪清干的。是个很微小的事情，看上去也很可爱，只有情侣间才会这么做。但是因为超时了，所以别减掉了。
10) Will we see you attempt such genres again? (Ed’s note: He’s currently working on a family dramedy that’s will be aired in the latter half of 2015)
还会有这个风格的作品吗？(编辑：他现在在写一部家庭剧，会在2015年下半年播出）
I’d want to try such genres again. But I’d want to challenge how to balance it up to appeal to all types of audience and not isolate one group. It’s the biggest challenge to find the balance. But I’ll keep trying. (Ed: I hope to still see such shows on local TV in future) Me too. This is something I enjoy doing. I hope to research and base my next project on something real. There’s this Hollywood drama I’m watching called Fargo. It’s a TV series based on a true story, but it has a very ridiculous story background. But I guess anything’s possible in America (laughs).
我想。但是我想挑战怎样在各类观众群里寻找到平衡，而不是只有一部分观众喜欢。要找到这个平衡点很难。但是我会不断尝试。（小编：我喜欢仍然可以在电视荧幕上看到这类作品）我也是，这是我喜欢做的事情。我希望我下部作品更写实。我在看一部好莱坞戏剧叫做《Fargo》，这是一部以真实故事改编的电视剧，但是故事背景很好笑。我觉得在美国，没有什么是不可能的。（笑）
能分享下减掉了哪些戏吗？
In episode 12 from the drama’s first edit, after they had confirmed their status as a couple, there were a few scenes we had to take out that could have contributed to the build-up of their relationship. One such example is this particular scene which shows their relationship developing and showcases a bit of Xueqing’s resistance towards the colour grey. Something cute she did was to keep all of Di Shen’s grey clothes in his wardrobe – not in an angry manner, but in a you-must-accept-my-likes-and-dislikes-now-that-we’re-dating way. And so when Di Shen enters his room and notices a pile of grey clothes at a corner, he immediately knows it’s something done by Xueqing. So this is something small and cute only couples would do, but it got cut out due to overrun.
12集按照开始剪辑的那版，他们确定情侣关系后，还有一些两人在一起的互动场景的，有助于巩固两人的恋爱关系，但是被减掉了。其中一场戏就是演他们感情发展的戏，还有雪清抗拒灰色的戏。她做的可爱的事情就是把狄深所有灰色的衣服放进衣帽间，不是以生气的样子，而是以一种“既然我们在一起，你就要接受我喜欢的和不喜欢的”的样子演绎出来的。然后当狄深走进去他的房间然后发现角落里堆了一堆灰色衣服，他马上意识到这一定是雪清干的。是个很微小的事情，看上去也很可爱，只有情侣间才会这么做。但是因为超时了，所以别减掉了。
10) Will we see you attempt such genres again? (Ed’s note: He’s currently working on a family dramedy that’s will be aired in the latter half of 2015)
还会有这个风格的作品吗？(编辑：他现在在写一部家庭剧，会在2015年下半年播出）
I’d want to try such genres again. But I’d want to challenge how to balance it up to appeal to all types of audience and not isolate one group. It’s the biggest challenge to find the balance. But I’ll keep trying. (Ed: I hope to still see such shows on local TV in future) Me too. This is something I enjoy doing. I hope to research and base my next project on something real. There’s this Hollywood drama I’m watching called Fargo. It’s a TV series based on a true story, but it has a very ridiculous story background. But I guess anything’s possible in America (laughs).
我想。但是我想挑战怎样在各类观众群里寻找到平衡，而不是只有一部分观众喜欢。要找到这个平衡点很难。但是我会不断尝试。（小编：我喜欢仍然可以在电视荧幕上看到这类作品）我也是，这是我喜欢做的事情。我希望我下部作品更写实。我在看一部好莱坞戏剧叫做《Fargo》，这是一部以真实故事改编的电视剧，但是故事背景很好笑。我觉得在美国，没有什么是不可能的。（笑）
