【译文】Flaunt为Tom做的访谈全文翻译（中英文对照）

It's Not Abstract, this Kindness
此番仁厚并非抽象
TomHiddleston
The actorgives himself to charity, to question, and to biscuit in a London tea club
TomHiddleston
演员在伦敦茶社里于他的慈善、访谈及茶点
Written byLaura Havlin Photographed by Jason Hetherington
写作：Laura Havlin 摄影：JasonHetherington

I told youI’d speak in loose metaphors, by the way,” says Tom Hiddleston with a wry smileover Earl Grey tea and a slice of lemon cake, as he begins to pick apart theperspective-shattering experience he’s just had as a UNICEF representative inGuinea, West Africa. It’s not quite the interview I was expecting from the starof blockbuster Tinseltown fare like Thor, but it’s a damn sight moreinteresting than long diatribes about process, method and the fabulousity ofpool parties and endless cocktails. Then again, maybe it’s not totallyunexpected. Hiddleston did make his name in the heart-wrenching WWI drama WarHorse, after all.
“顺便说下，我告诉你我只说随便打个比方”，品着格雷伯爵茶，伴着一块柠檬蛋糕，Tom Hiddleston带着一丝苦笑说道，此刻他正在开始“针砭”他作为联合国儿童基金会的代表访问西非几内亚后震撼观念的感触。这远非我所期待的对好莱坞票房巨片“雷神”的明星的采访，然而这却比——对过程方法的长篇冷嘲热讽，以及泳池派对和无尽的鸡尾酒之无稽——显然有趣多了。另一方面，也许这也并非完全意外。毕竟Hiddleston是以令人心碎的一战故事片《战马》成名的。
“Every time you consider a job, you have to check in withyour inner compass and say, ‘Does this fit in with how I see what the work isfor? Is this going to besomething interesting and valuable to contribute to the world?’” He’sreconciling his experience in one of the world’s most devastatingly needycountries with his occupation which, by his own admission, can seem “flippant”in comparison to the work of those on the frontline of fighting world poverty.“All I am, really is a sort-of town crier.” He continues, elaborating on hisrole at the charity. “I’m someone who can write about it and make people aware,but I’m not distributing vaccines; I’m not organizing transportation; I can’tmake fortified milk for infants who are malnourished; I can’t build schools andfind jobs and build training systems; I’m not a chemist; I’m not an engineer;I’m not a politician- I’m just in the position where people, some people, a fewpeople, will read what I’ve got to say.”
“每次你斟酌一份工作，你都需用你内心的罗盘去辨析，并问‘ 这是否和我期待的工作意向吻合？’”在世界上最贫困的国家之一，他身体力行，以他的职业，他自认，与那些最前线的工作的相比，堪称“轻如鸿毛”。“我的一切，实际上，类似某种街头公告员”他接着说，详解他在慈善事业中的作用。“我可以动笔写并且让人们予以关注，但我不会分配疫苗；我不会组织运输；我不会为营养不良的儿童调制强化奶；我不会建学校并且解决就业和建制培训系统；我不是药剂师；我不是工程师；我不是政要——我的地位可以让人们，一些人，少许人，倾听我的言论”。
And what he doeshave to say offers a remakably poetic take on the situation, which isrefeshingly heartfelt and introspective when compared to straight-faced, albeitbrave reportage from hardened field journalists. His perspective is in no smallpart due to his love of the abstract metaphor. For instance, he wrote thefollowing in one of his UNICEF blogs: “I feel as though the cardboard box of myown reality has been flattened and blown open. Now I can see the edge of theworld.”
而他的言论于此情境平添了分外的诗意，与冷酷的现场记者之一本正经，但勇敢的报道相比，发自肺腑而自省，让人耳目一新。他的视角中大篇幅地体现着他对抽象比喻的钟爱：比如，他在他的一篇博客中写了如下内容：“我依然感觉我装载自己对现实认知的小纸盒被压平吹开。现在我见到了世界的边沿。”
It’s clearHiddleston is moved and still buzzing from his experience in Africa, becausethroughout our meeting he repeatedly stops in reflection and mentions just how excitedhe feels about life at the moment, positively brimming with optimism andinspiration.
毋庸置疑Hiddleston为他的西非经历所感触并且依然喋喋不休，因为在我们的整个会面中他重返地停下来沉浸并提及他当下是如何对人生感到兴奋，积极地充盈着乐观与灵感。

“I am an optimist. Ichoose to be,” he says, “There is a lot of darkness in our world, there is alot of pain and you can either choose to see that or you can choose to see thejoy. If you try to respond positively to the world, you’ll spend your timebetter.”
“我是个乐观主义者，我选择如此，”他说。“世上有太多的阴暗，还有很多的苦痛，而你即可以选择看见这些，或者你也可以选择生活在愉悦之中。如果你选择去积极地响应这个世界，你可以更好的度日。”
“I went for a jogwith Julien Harneis, who runs UNICEF in Guinea.“ he says. “It was very early inthe morning and we ran along the river- it was absolutely beautiful, one of themost beautiful sunrises I’ve ever seen. When you go for a run early in themorning and you’re half asleep, your mind is so open and you’re almost impolitein your lack of censorship because you just speak what’s in your heart. Westarted talking about this idea that every day in any life is a creative act-it’s one step closer to becoming the person you want to be. We’re all playingroles all the time. At the moment, I’m playing the role of the person beinginterviewed and you’re playing the role of the person interviewing me… ”Hebreaks off for a moment, deep in the existential thoughts that dominate ourconversation. “But this guy. Julien, who was saying this to me, said, ‘This iswho I want to be. I believe in public service. I believe in trying to leave afootprint that is positive and helpful even if it’s washed away by the tidewhen I’m gone.’ That single statement has rearranged my head in terms of how Ithink about acting, how I think about my personal relationships. It was anamazing thing”
“我曾和JulianHarneis,联合国儿童基金会在几内亚的负责人，一起慢跑”他说，“在清晨沿着河岸——绝对的美丽，我做见到过最美的日出之一。如果你清晨起跑还处于半梦半醒状态，你的思维会是如此开阔以致你因缺乏自省束缚而近乎无理，因为你只是表达你的心声。我们开始谈论关于任何生命的每天都是创新之举：离你的理想又近了一步。每时每刻我们全都在扮演角色。此时此刻，我在扮演被采访者的角色，而你在扮演访问我的角色……”他停顿片刻，沉浸在主导我们谈话的存在主义思想中。“但这个人，Julien，他对我说，‘这就是我理想之所在，我相信公益事业，我相信留下积极有益的足迹，即使在我消逝后会被潮水冲刷掉’这简简单单的一句,在于我对演戏的认知以及我人际关系的认知方面，重整了我的理念。这是不可思议的事”
Hiddleston’sacademic groundling, scoring a double first in Classics at CambridgeUniversity, has set him up with an inquisitive rigor that inveigles a wish tomull over existential issues, such as identity, time and the best way to spendit. “The most exciting question,” he argues passionately, “and I say this withthe cleanest slate, is ‘Who do you want to be?’ I find people who are braveenough to be honest about their vulnerability or their ignorance really moving-you know, when you get people who are older who have done amazing things turnaround and say ‘I still don’t know what I’m doing…’ That is incredible.Spielberg’s like that. I don’t mean to just drop his name in, but he is sohumble. He’s like, ‘I’m still not sure I know how to do this, I mean, I think Iknow, then every time I make a film, I learn something I didn’t know beforeabout people or filmmaking or a story – that’s why I’m still here’ You hear himsay that and you’re like, ‘amazing’.”

Hiddleston也提到了迈克尔·哈内克的《爱》是有益于世界的一篇佳作。“这部片犹如巅峰，它是日常经历中的一份智慧，而哈内克将其表现出来，说‘所有，你知道，这是你所期待的。这是在生命的尽头你有幸得到的亲昵……’看完这部片，我后面整整一个月都在不停地思考。这使其他任何事都显得轻浮、甚至不值一提”谈及他自己的作品，作为他特别引以为豪之作，Hiddleston提及BBC制作的《空王冠》。“我认为这些影片对世界有本质性的作用”他认为史诗般的大制作与低成本独立制作的影片在触动人心的潜质上没有任何区别。他并非那种拘泥于自己事业的演员，以致认为在小制作中必须兼顾商业片才能巩固自己培养出来的公众形象。“他们的投资是一千五百万美金还是一千五百，其实并不重要——工作其实都是一样的。作为演员，你的工作就是表现人性的真相，无论是阴影重重还是色彩斑斓，用来服务于该故事。我喜爱《战马》。我记得读剧本时，（内容）让我落泪，因为那是关于绅士情怀，而马则是我们在困境中的善性的载体与象征。”当涉及到那部让他家喻户晓的影片时，他深思尤甚，进而延续至他自我探讨的问题——在有限的时间内做无限有价值的工作对于他来说的意义。“几内亚之行让我感到我是有用的。并且这真是每个人都希望有的感觉，他们对世界有用处。一旦你开始感到没用就成问题了。而我则总被这个问题烦扰：‘我在这个星球上怎样才能最好的利用我的时间呢？’（译者注：Loki，你还是搬到中土来了哈）。而（此行）所做的一切都得以报偿，因此很明显，时间利用极其有效。”

Seeking toanswer this question has only been intensified for Hiddleston since visiting Guinea.But the relentless tick-ticking of time that he evidently hears doesn’t seem torattle him; rather, it motivates him. “I am an optimist. I choose to be,” hesays, “There is a lot of darkness in our world, there is a lot of pain and youcan either choose to see that or you can choose to see the joy. If you try torespond positively to the world, you’ll spend your time better. If you respondnegatively, you might one day look back and say, ‘Why did I spend the wholetime complaining? Why didn’t I acknowledge the stuff I have, never mind thestuff I didn’t have?’ I’m a glass-half-full person, simply because it’s betteruse my time.”
在Hiddleston的几内亚之行之后，对该问题答案的寻找进一步增强了。然而他明显听见时间滴滴答答的无情流逝，但这并未令他恐慌：继而，促动他。“我是个乐观主义者，我选择如此，”他说。“世上有太多的阴暗，还有很多的苦痛，而你即可以选择看见这些，或者你也可以选择生活在愉悦之中。如果你选择去积极地响应这个世界，你可以更好的度日。如果你选择消极地面对，你也许会有一天回首说‘为什么我花掉全部的时间去抱怨？为什么我认可了这一面，而不是另一面呢？’我是个乐观主义者，因为这样更有利于我利用时间。”
As if toillustrate his earlier point about worthwhile pieces of writing, Hiddlestonthen references the work of legendary playwright Chekhov, seemingly apropos ofnothing. “Chekhov is a genius because his plays dramatize the moment in people’slives at a particular time, at a particular place in history. His characters,quite suddenly, in middle age realize that there’s an hourglass – there’s aclock that is ticking – and that there’s more sand at the bottom than at thetop, and the more they look at it the faster the sand seems to go. And thereason these plays are so funny and so sad is because people are suddenlycursed with regret because they misused their time: they married the wrongwoman; they ploughed the crops wrong; they lived in the wrong town; they neverwent to Moscow. It’s a motivating factor to realize that it’s a shot life, soshould use it well. ”
好像要说明他前面关于有价值的文章（观点）， Hiddleston这里引用了著名剧作家契科夫的作品，看似信手拈来。“契科夫是个天才，因为他的剧作渲染历史上的特定时间，特定地点人们生活中的片刻。 他的角色，很突然地，在中年意识到沙漏的存在——表在滴答响——沙漏底部的沙多于上面的，而他们看得越勤，沙流得就越快。而这些剧作既有趣又悲哀的原因是，因为人们突然后悔地诅咒由于他们滥用了自己的时间：他们娶错了妻子；他们耕错了田；他们住在错误的村庄；他们从未去过莫斯科。这是认识到人生短暂的起因，所有我们应该用之有道。”

后记：我本人对他的欣赏，不是他的容貌，因为天下美男多如过江之鲫。他的头脑与思想，以及从几内亚归来之后的升华，真是深得我心。
对于存在和未来的思考，是人生的重大阶梯，如何面对自己，是紧要的抉择。
希望各位，与我一样欣赏本文，谢谢观看。

顶一个，辛苦!好文章!

先顶，太长了，须得定定心心品，LL辛苦，撒花！

翻译辛苦，抖森是个很有内涵的人啊。。哎说的我心里还蛮有些触动的。。现在爬去考计算机了，希望抖森保佑我。

lz辛苦了，多谢分享！
Tom真是个非常诚恳和善良的孩子。

翻译真棒！
人超好~~抖森~~

这真的是一篇很不错的采访！LZ的翻译也非常精彩。话唠也一如既往地发挥着他的无敌技能…这篇文章发人深省，我要多读几遍~~

玛着回家再看~